The states of John Key – The drivers

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1. BLiP 1

   24 July 2010 at 2:33 pm

   John Key – Aotearoa’s Schrödinger’s Prime Minister.
2. ZakC 2

   24 July 2010 at 3:42 pm

   Great pic of whatever rodent that is.. not holding the golfclub properly..

   I venture to suggest it is not a marmot. Reasons being, a marmot knows its golfclubs, and marmots are global warming lovers. Anthropophiles. For yes, they are getting fatter from shorter hibernations. Would you believe..? You’d better, because it is troo. Scientists say so. See!!
3. Ari 3

   24 July 2010 at 4:29 pm

   Ivory Tower is to setting as John Key is to character 😛
4. Francisco Hernandez 4

   24 July 2010 at 4:45 pm

   I’m sorry I’ve been a long time member of the Labour Party but this is just irrelavant personality-driven attacks.

   We’re going to have to do much better than this to win in 2011.
   
   [lprent: This is a left group blog with no association with the NZLP apart from having some (not the majority) of the authors being NZLP members – read the about. But this wasn’t even written by one of our resident authors.

   This is a well-written set of posts by a guest poster coming through the contribute post button using a throw-away e-mail address. Of course we will put it up. It expresses clearly the attitude of many towards our current PM. There are a lot more of them yet to come… ]
   • outofbed 4.1

     24 July 2010 at 5:55 pm

     Lke get rid of Goff?
   • Anne 4.2

     24 July 2010 at 6:00 pm

     @ Francisco Hernandez
     “I’m sorry I’ve been a long time member of the Labour Party but this is just irrelavant personality-driven attacks.”

     Please tell me what this Guest Post has to do with the Labour Party?
   • logie97 4.3

     24 July 2010 at 6:04 pm

     @ Francisco – Presumably as a long time member of the Labour Party you would have a political philosophy. That is what defines left and right. Key on the other hand is Mr In-between and demonstrating that he is shallow with no philosophy – he will trip up one day – sometime soon we hope. People will begin to see through the Mr Niceguy. When he trips he will need to seek support from some of the more extreme in his party to bail him out but he might find it hard to identify with them and he will then be history.

     So I do not see any problems with these posts. Keep reminding the punters of his history. It will catch him out one day.

     Incidentally, if you managed to catch him on Maori TV with Willie Jackson last night… you will have seen examples of his uncomfortable wriggling and his endearing little nervous giggles…)
5. Tanya 5

   24 July 2010 at 5:38 pm

   He made his goals, didn’t he. He can’t take his money with him though, when he leaves the earth, His silver will canker.
   • Daveosaurus 5.1

     24 July 2010 at 6:39 pm

     I highly doubt he will ever leave the earth; or, at least, its troposphere. There’s no votes in hopping on a space shuttle to somewhere.
6. john 6

   24 July 2010 at 6:50 pm

   Why did Kiwis vote him in then? Anyone could read what type of man he is!!!
   • BLiP 6.1

     24 July 2010 at 7:12 pm

     That’s a good question and there’s all sorts of answers. There’s the naive belief that it was National Ltdâ„¢’s “turn”, there’s the “communist lesbian nanny combo” appeal to the irrational emotional aspect of the population, there’s the fact that the electorate seems to have a short memory when it comes to National Ltdâ„¢ and couldn’t/wouldn’t believe that its manifesto was a schedule of bollocks, there was the turd polishing hagiographic personal biography of The Goober . . . be good to get a definitive answer, assuming there is one. It certainly wasn’t a considered decision based on policy, hell no!! If there should ever be a happy election day that happens, we’ll have a Green Party in power.

     But what about you, john, what do you think? Do you even?
     • felix 6.1.1

       24 July 2010 at 8:48 pm

       “…the electorate seems to have a short memory when it comes to National Ltdâ„¢…”

       I’ve been thinking a bit about this lately BLiP. Why did so many voters in 2008 act like they were born yesterday?

       One factor I haven’t seen discussed is the enormous number of immigrants who entered the country during Labour’s 3 terms who – having never lived in NZ under a National govt – may well have taken more of the bullshit at face value than many long-time residents would.

       The whole “you can have all the good stuff plus a tax cut” schtick only really made sense if you had no idea what Nat govts are like. A lot of their campaign rhetoric was so blatantly 180 degrees from anything National govts have ever stood for but how would you know unless you’d lived here before ’99 or taken a particular interest in NZ political history?

       To recent immigrants you can add anyone relatively apolitical who turned 18 sometime after 1999 and you’re looking at a decent amount of voters who, politically speaking, actually were born yesterday.

       Will they fall for it again? Anecdotally I can think of quite a few who won’t. Thoughts?
       • BLiP 6.1.1.1

         24 July 2010 at 9:34 pm

         Ahhhh . . . now there’s a dynamic I hadn’t considered and, I wonder if, Labour made fatal assumptions concerning. Being an immigrant in Aotearoa is not an easy fate, especially for our melatonin-enhanced brothers and sisters, and those who might initially flounder with the lingua franca. I would suggest that C/T et al were more aware of it than perhaps the rest of us should have been and were quick to fund the likes of Shawn Tan et al to stir up fear that egregious spate of crime facilitated. (Where are the headlines now, I wonder.) Labour and the Greens should be all over this issue ensuring as best they can, as The Who so wisely said, they don’t get fooled again.

         Very good thinking, 99. I’m going to have to ponder but, as usual, you have provided another slant, this time on the “what happened” question. Cheers mate.

         In the meantime, you might be interested in this highly confidential, internal Crosby/Textor training video. It looks as if they have been turning to practical science to supplement their social science experiments and it explains exactly what was done to John Key in the lead up to November 2008.
         • felix 6.1.1.1.1

           24 July 2010 at 11:06 pm

           Don’t forget about the less-pigmented immigrants either – lots of fairly apolitical Brits have come here in the past decade to buy a house and raise kids and generally get a fair go at the Kiwi dream – the “all this + a tax cut” would’ve resonated pretty well there too.

           As for the video, it reminds me of being a kid and having someone explain to me how a “sheen” is light reflected off a surface whereas a “gleam” radiates from within something. You really can put a sheen on anything it seems.
     • prism 6.1.2

       25 July 2010 at 1:47 pm

       there’s the “communist lesbian nanny combo’ appeal to the irrational emotional aspect of the population, there’s the fact that the electorate seems to have a short memory when it comes to National Ltdâ„¢

       A politician can wear out the goodwill voters had whether male or female. It is sexist to constantly cast criticism of HC in terms of anti-female. Labour did not have a good majority in the previous election, and did not please or offer enough positive visions for the voters who cared when they finally went down. National seemed to have better ones, and didn’t have the weight of years of activity that hadn’t given enough lift to the country for the future.

       The anti-spam says it all for now – mess!
7. ghostwhowalksnz 7

   24 July 2010 at 7:48 pm

   This could be useful

   The Keirsey Temperament Sorter (KTS) is a self-assessed personality questionnaire designed to help people better understand themselves and others. It was first introduced in the book Please Understand Me.

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keirsey_Temperament_Sorter

   The type that probably corresponds to John Key is this one

   Promoters are tactical operators, concrete in speech and utilitarian in action. In social situations, they are directive and expressive.[2] Promoters are the most adept among the types at maneuvering other people to their position. They make a point of getting to know those in positions of influence. Promoters are also resourceful, knowing where the fun and the action are. They like to indulge themselves in the finer things in life and to bring other people with them. Their goal in life is to sell themselves and their ideas to others. Dramatic and debonair, they are gifted at earning others’ confidence.[1]

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promoter_(Role_Variant)

   Sorry about the cut and paste but it makes the point

   [lprent: fixed the tags ]
8. dave brown 8

   24 July 2010 at 8:43 pm

   I agree with Francisco, if I were a member of the Labour Party I woulnt base my opposition to the NACTs on such a flimsy characteristion of Key’s personality as the vacuous man in the middle. Key is just the man for the NACTs, having gone through Binglish and dumped Don, and with the rest useless or faceless, Key is the personable ‘smiling assassin’ who can front NACTs rightwing agenda. What makes Key good is that he is actually believes the crap about the meritocracy and his own life is proof of it for many NZers who would have loved to go from state house to Wall St to ‘live the dream’.
   So its not Key that is important as such but the fact that Key represents the realised ‘aspirations’ of lots of middle class NZ trying to escape the working class even when theyre not. He provides a few targets to blame and bash.
   So he can be pragmatic, this and that, feint left and right, but all the time he serves the basic agenda of the ruling class to try to fool most of the people most of the time so that the bosses can gerrymander, jackup, pay off, suck off, smile and gloat while they shaft us with rogernomics 11. He is still doing pretty well considering the rolling ruck the NACTs are using to steamroll democracy, welfare, and climate change policy.
   Its not about leaders its about followers. While NZ follows the leader like sheep they will end up at the works.
   • felix 8.1

     24 July 2010 at 9:09 pm

     That’s spot on but it cuts both ways. You could attack the rest of National on their policy, their sub-par cabinet, their already long list of lies and corruption from now until the election and you know what? Key would still smile and dance his way into half the Party vote. But he’s all they’ve got, electability-wise, and they know it.
     • loota 8.1.1

       25 July 2010 at 2:06 pm

       Felix, how true is that though? Consider the wealth of talent coming up through the Young Nats.

       captcha: upwards
       • felix 8.1.1.1

         25 July 2010 at 4:05 pm

         Wealth indeed. Talent not so much.

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