Comments on: Spray and hope http://www.thestandard.org.nz/spray-and-hope/ The New Zealand labour movement used to have its own newspaper. A group of us thought that now might be a good time for it to be digitally reborn: The Standard v2.0. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:48:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Pascal's bookie http://www.thestandard.org.nz/spray-and-hope/#comment-92964 Pascal's bookie Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:32:49 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3247#comment-92964 QtR Exactly. I'm not prepared to give the state the right to kill it's citizens. End of fucking story. QtR

Exactly. I’m not prepared to give the state the right to kill it’s citizens. End of fucking story.

]]> By: Quoth the Raven http://www.thestandard.org.nz/spray-and-hope/#comment-92962 Quoth the Raven Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:20:26 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3247#comment-92962 Funny thing is those fucknuts probably complain about the nanny state and they want the state to have the power to execute people. Funny thing is those fucknuts probably complain about the nanny state and they want the state to have the power to execute people.

]]> By: Pascal's bookie http://www.thestandard.org.nz/spray-and-hope/#comment-92951 Pascal's bookie Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:25:20 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3247#comment-92951 Paul, I'd just seen buggerlugs comment when I saw yours. Irony struck me more than anything else. I'm in two minds about 'promoting' vile comments from threads into news stories. On the crappy hand, the comments at Stuff or the Herald are plainly by idiots. Commenters will say any damn thing, there is little actual discussion and quoting them is pretty stupid. You may as well quote word salad. On another less crappy hand, punters in munter land should be exposed to some of the crap that their fellow kiwis are prepared to say. I've recommended kiwiblog comment sections to friends of my parents, explaining first who DF is and how close he is to those lovely polite National party people. I've never needed to send them to whale's place to make it any clearer. Paul, I’d just seen buggerlugs comment when I saw yours. Irony struck me more than anything else.

I’m in two minds about ‘promoting’ vile comments from threads into news stories.

On the crappy hand, the comments at Stuff or the Herald are plainly by idiots. Commenters will say any damn thing, there is little actual discussion and quoting them is pretty stupid. You may as well quote word salad.

On another less crappy hand, punters in munter land should be exposed to some of the crap that their fellow kiwis are prepared to say.

I’ve recommended kiwiblog comment sections to friends of my parents, explaining first who DF is and how close he is to those lovely polite National party people. I’ve never needed to send them to whale’s place to make it any clearer.

]]> By: Paul http://www.thestandard.org.nz/spray-and-hope/#comment-92938 Paul Tue, 07 Oct 2008 05:30:37 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3247#comment-92938 OK, I was actually trying to be a little magnanimous for dear old Kiwiblog. We all know the crap that goes on in that place, but to see it on Fairfax's Stuff web site was pretty unbelievable. Actually I see they've taken down the poll, which is a little quick for polls. " bullet to the head, put these guys down like the animals they are. A single bullet right between the eyes is a much cheaper option for those who think nothing of stabbing and shooting others to death." was the actual quote used, not in the comments (although it was made by a person), but used in a story in a national news organisation - that's pretty reprehensible. Actually, even with the thick skin I have, I've all but given up on DPF's site. One could take the shit, but the gloating is too much to bear. OK, I was actually trying to be a little magnanimous for dear old Kiwiblog.

We all know the crap that goes on in that place, but to see it on Fairfax’s Stuff web site was pretty unbelievable.

Actually I see they’ve taken down the poll, which is a little quick for polls.

” bullet to the head, put these guys down like the animals they are. A single bullet right between the eyes is a much cheaper option for those who think nothing of stabbing and shooting others to death.”

was the actual quote used, not in the comments (although it was made by a person), but used in a story in a national news organisation - that’s pretty reprehensible.

Actually, even with the thick skin I have, I’ve all but given up on DPF’s site. One could take the shit, but the gloating is too much to bear.

]]> By: Pascal's bookie http://www.thestandard.org.nz/spray-and-hope/#comment-92866 Pascal's bookie Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:03:20 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3247#comment-92866 "even DPF wouldn’t really put up with that shit." <i>Buggerlugs (1220) Vote: 25 0 Says: October 6th, 2008 at 3:52 pm Adolf - Cullen should be executed for this pile of shit...</i> “even DPF wouldn’t really put up with that shit.”

Buggerlugs (1220) Vote: 25 0 Says:

October 6th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Adolf - Cullen should be executed for this pile of shit…

]]> By: Tane http://www.thestandard.org.nz/spray-and-hope/#comment-92863 Tane Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:50:18 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3247#comment-92863 Paul. Yes. Depressing. Paul. Yes. Depressing.

]]> By: Paul http://www.thestandard.org.nz/spray-and-hope/#comment-92859 Paul Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:46:34 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3247#comment-92859 have you guys seen the unashamed hard-on Stuff.co.nz has given itself. It's reporting on it's own story, even created an online poll about the death penalty. Nobody was talking about the death penalty until some dork in the comments section mentioned it. It became such a hot topic they've reported and created a story all about their comments page. I don't know about you guys, but to allow wacko extremists to hijack the comments on a story, create a story and poll all around it, seems nothing more than an orgy of self indulgence by fairfax. Further their comments need serious moderation, the idiot who suggested lining people up to save bullets, even DPF wouldn't really put up with that shit. Poor poor poor journalism have you guys seen the unashamed hard-on Stuff.co.nz has given itself. It’s reporting on it’s own story, even created an online poll about the death penalty.

Nobody was talking about the death penalty until some dork in the comments section mentioned it. It became such a hot topic they’ve reported and created a story all about their comments page.

I don’t know about you guys, but to allow wacko extremists to hijack the comments on a story, create a story and poll all around it, seems nothing more than an orgy of self indulgence by fairfax.

Further their comments need serious moderation, the idiot who suggested lining people up to save bullets, even DPF wouldn’t really put up with that shit.

Poor poor poor journalism

]]> By: Phil http://www.thestandard.org.nz/spray-and-hope/#comment-92810 Phil Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:15:27 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3247#comment-92810 http://www.beanpoll.co.nz/location.cfm?short_code=JOHN Johnsonville - residential domicile of the wellington civil servant... seems like we aren't worried about job losses under National. :) http://www.beanpoll.co.nz/location.cfm?short_code=JOHN

Johnsonville - residential domicile of the wellington civil servant… seems like we aren’t worried about job losses under National.

:)

]]> By: Dom http://www.thestandard.org.nz/spray-and-hope/#comment-92783 Dom Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:19:08 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3247#comment-92783 yes randal, I believe stoning is one of National's policies that they having announced yet along with book burning, witch drowning and teaching that the world was created 4,000 years ago and that evolution is bunk. Captcha - inner Left yes randal, I believe stoning is one of National’s policies that they having announced yet along with book burning, witch drowning and teaching that the world was created 4,000 years ago and that evolution is bunk.

Captcha - inner Left

]]> By: outofbed http://www.thestandard.org.nz/spray-and-hope/#comment-92780 outofbed Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:08:05 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3247#comment-92780 This poll is looking very good for NZF http://www.beanpoll.co.nz/location.cfm?short_code=MER This poll is looking very good for NZF
http://www.beanpoll.co.nz/location.cfm?short_code=MER

]]> By: Janet http://www.thestandard.org.nz/spray-and-hope/#comment-92779 Janet Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:04:32 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3247#comment-92779 The poll on the death penalty is actually indicating a growing opposition to it. For years a large majority of NZers have wanted the death penalty brought back, according to such polls. The poll on the death penalty is actually indicating a growing opposition to it. For years a large majority of NZers have wanted the death penalty brought back, according to such polls.

]]> By: outofbed http://www.thestandard.org.nz/spray-and-hope/#comment-92778 outofbed Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:03:59 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3247#comment-92778 This poll is looking very good for National http://www.beanpoll.co.nz/location.cfm?short_code=DTP Cap:parties ratings (Its alive) This poll is looking very good for National

http://www.beanpoll.co.nz/location.cfm?short_code=DTP

Cap:parties ratings (Its alive)

]]> By: randal http://www.thestandard.org.nz/spray-and-hope/#comment-92774 randal Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:49:10 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3247#comment-92774 I wonder if they will bring back public stoning? I wonder if they will bring back public stoning?

]]> By: Dom http://www.thestandard.org.nz/spray-and-hope/#comment-92762 Dom Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:39:41 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3247#comment-92762 I see that half the population apparently want to bring back the death penalty (Herald poll) so maybe National are onto something. Way to go NZ, bring in the death penalty and lets see how it affects the violent crime rate. I guess these people never noticed that the highest murder rates in the US are in the states that still have the death penalty... (oddly the Captcha words are enacting Execu-) I see that half the population apparently want to bring back the death penalty (Herald poll) so maybe National are onto something.

Way to go NZ, bring in the death penalty and lets see how it affects the violent crime rate. I guess these people never noticed that the highest murder rates in the US are in the states that still have the death penalty…

(oddly the Captcha words are enacting Execu-)

]]> By: Ianmac http://www.thestandard.org.nz/spray-and-hope/#comment-92753 Ianmac Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:17:29 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3247#comment-92753 Stan: Those drawings are pretty mean, at "don't vote labour". I can understand where those who post regular tedious abuse on various blogs, get their ideas from. I think that the slippery/spray one above is clever rather than malicious. Remember about a year ago John Key said "I will do whatever it takes." Even Simon Power must be gasping at the life means life from Key/Sen Sent Trust (Trust???). Simon has been consistent in his ideas and critisism re crime and punishment but would imagine that the latest call from Key would appall him. "So Slippery John?" "Do what it takes?" (By the way legislation on crime can't be retrospective, (Thanks Lyndon) so a crim will have to commit a 5+ year crime next year, be sentenced in say 2010, serve 5 years, then commit another 5+ year crime about year 2014 by which time John Key will have slipped out of sight. Cunning plan Baldrick!!) Stan: Those drawings are pretty mean, at “don’t vote labour”. I can understand where those who post regular tedious abuse on various blogs, get their ideas from. I think that the slippery/spray one above is clever rather than malicious.
Remember about a year ago John Key said “I will do whatever it takes.” Even Simon Power must be gasping at the life means life from Key/Sen Sent Trust (Trust???). Simon has been consistent in his ideas and critisism re crime and punishment but would imagine that the latest call from Key would appall him. “So Slippery John?” “Do what it takes?” (By the way legislation on crime can’t be retrospective, (Thanks Lyndon) so a crim will have to commit a 5+ year crime next year, be sentenced in say 2010, serve 5 years, then commit another 5+ year crime about year 2014 by which time John Key will have slipped out of sight. Cunning plan Baldrick!!)

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