Govt spending – the big lie

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govt-spending--GDPI’m kind of embarrassed. I should know by now never to trust a word out of Bill English’s mouth. I should have checked his repeated claims that government spending rocketed under Labour.

English likes to say that because of Labour government spending increased by 45% over the five years from 2004 to 2009. As David Cunliffe has pointed out there’s several things wrong with that: it’s not inflation-adjusted, it’s not population growth-adjusted, it’s not GDP growth-adjusted, and the years are cherry-picked. When you look at the last ten years of spending as a percentage of GDP, you get a very different picture from what English wants you to believe.

Let’s look at what actually happened to government spending (here and here) compared to GDP (here). There was one really low year, 2004, because GDP jumped by $10 billion a year that year. Otherwise it was pretty flat until the recession in 2009.

Another government lie shot to pieces. Now, we have to think about what’s behind the lie. It’s an agenda to slash and burn public services. Budget 2010 is going to be ugly.

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  1. gitmo 1
    10 December 2009 at 3:43 pm

    To save people the trouble here’s the crown core expenses 97/98 through to projected 2009

    32,852
    34,367
    34,536
    36,699
    37,970
    41,234
    41,738
    43,292
    45,031
    46,594
    41,882 – 2004
    44,895
    49,320
    54,003
    56,997
    62,363

    • Bright Red 1.1
      10 December 2009 at 3:55 pm

      gitmo, those numbers aren’t inflation adjusted are they?

      or population adjusted?

      or GDP adjusted?

      You do understand that nominal values are pretty much random doodles on the screen without context, eh?

      I mean, if you go back to 1976, the government was spending $3.6 billion a year – holy crap! government spending up 1600% in 33 years!

      but, oh, with inflation that’s $28 billion in today’s money a 125% increase.

      oh yeah and the population has increased 39%, so real spending per person is up only 56%.

      And then there’s GDP growth… turns out that in 1976 government spending was spending 30.8% of GDP. Pretty much what it is now.

      See how context changes things, gitmo?

      I bet you don’t.

      • ben 1.1.1
        10 December 2009 at 4:30 pm

        Red, over a four year period the nominal vs real difference is unimportant. And, coming back to Marty’s post, what English actually said is perfectly accurate. Calling it a lie because another metric serves his purpose more closely is absurd. Recognising reasonable people will disagree might be a more mature response.

        • Bright Red 1.1.1.1
          10 December 2009 at 4:42 pm

          over a four year period the difference is clearly important because govt spend as percent of GDP is steady except for the peak of growth in 2004 and the recession.

          • ben 1.1.1.1.1
            10 December 2009 at 5:36 pm

            And now you’re just shifting goal posts. First you wanted real. Now you want % of GDP. Which, by the way, has nothing to do with whether the government was lying.

            All the metrics point up. It was perfectly clear which metric English was using. What he said was accurate. Where is the lie, exactly?

      • gitmo 1.1.2
        10 December 2009 at 4:51 pm

        Um are you a complete fucktard ?

        hmmm bet you are.

        English’s comment was that spending increased 45% between 04 and 09 this is a statement of fact.

        Should we take into account population growth and inflation into account when discussing whether that’s a good thing or a bad thing mmmmmm yes, is the growth in spending still ugly and unsustainable even if one takes into account these two factors….yep.

        I suggest you go and pull on your random doodle and spunk all over your keyboard…. better still sacrifice yourself to the polar bears that haven’t got enough to eat.

        [lprent: Careful. I had people all over me when I suggested that someones suicide would improve the species. I like to share my aggravation. ]

        • felix 1.1.2.1
          10 December 2009 at 5:09 pm

          “is the growth in spending still ugly and unsustainable even if one takes into account these two factors .”

          The growth in spending isn’t anywhere near 45% when those factors are taken into account.

          I realise you’re probably pretty smashed by now but the point you’re failing to grasp is not a complicated one.

          If you are to insist that the growth in spending is “ugly and unsustainable” then perhaps you could tell us the size of this unsustainable ugliness.

          If you can’t then I hardly see how you can make the claim.

          • gitmo 1.1.2.1.1
            10 December 2009 at 5:14 pm

            “If you are to insist that the growth in spending is “ugly and unsustainable’ then perhaps you could tell us the size of this unsustainable ugliness.”

            250 mil a week

            ps hic and belch

          • ben 1.1.2.1.2
            10 December 2009 at 5:44 pm

            The growth in spending isn’t anywhere near 45% when those factors are taken into account.

            But leaving out those factors doesn’t make what English said untrue. What he said was accurate. And, actually, not even misleading. Has the government paid out 45% more or not? So where is the lie?

            What’s especially egregious about all this that Marty has in the past himself managed to confuse real and nominal variables, on interest rates between 1980 and today, back when inflation was running at up to 20%. What’s the word I’m looking for… chutzpah.

            • felix 1.1.2.1.2.1
              10 December 2009 at 5:51 pm

              And that relates to my reply to gitmo how exactly?

              I don’t recall commenting on Mr English’s truthfulness, just gitmo’s grip on the day.

              Or are you stuck in some sort of loop where you can’t stop typing the same thing over and over until someone gives you some attention?

        • roger nome 1.1.2.2
          11 December 2009 at 9:53 am

          gitmo – you’re being a nob. English was being misleading, and you know it.

  2. ben 2
    10 December 2009 at 3:44 pm

    It’s not a lie Marty, and it’s not even especially misleading. English’s wording accurately described the metric he was using. Did government spending go up 45% in absolute terms or not?

    Reasonable people will disagree about the appropriate measure of government spending – but calling it a lie because he uses a measure you wouldn’t is over the top and, frankly, untrue.

    • Lanthanide 2.1
      10 December 2009 at 3:52 pm

      I guess you’re from the school of thought that says a wage freeze isn’t actually a pay cut because you the number of dollars you get paid didn’t decrease.

      • ben 2.1.1
        10 December 2009 at 4:32 pm

        I get the difference between real and nominal.

        English’s wording accurately described the metric he was using. Did government spending go up 45% in absolute terms or not? Fine to argue another metric is better – but a lie? Nope.

    • Bright Red 2.2
      10 December 2009 at 4:00 pm

      ben. You mean nominal terms, not absolute terms.

      Nominal is meaningless.

      In Zimbabwe hyperinflation meant that nominal hourly wages went from a few dollars an hour to hundreds of thousnds of dollars an hour. Were they richer? No. That’s because nominal changes are meaningless, they’re just numbers on pieces of paper, not consistant measures of real value over time.

      • ben 2.2.1
        10 December 2009 at 4:26 pm

        Yeah I get the difference. As I said, reasonable people will disagree about the right metric. Nominal is not meaningless in a low inflation economy – it captures over 90% of the real variable in this case. Calling what English said a lie is completely over the top.

        • Bright Red 2.2.1.1
          10 December 2009 at 4:43 pm

          you’re also ignoring population and gdp growth.

          • Bright Red 2.2.1.1.1
            10 December 2009 at 4:44 pm

            and by comparing 2004 to 2009 you’re cherry-picking – the height of the boom vs the depths of recession.

            • ben 2.2.1.1.1.1
              10 December 2009 at 5:46 pm

              Dude – I am comparing absolutely nothing. And you are shifting goal posts. What English said was correct, and it was clear what he was saying. Calling what he said a lie is simply false. In fact, it is itself a lie.

  3. Lanthanide 3
    10 December 2009 at 3:55 pm

    Does the “government spending” figure also include money that was used to pay off debt? Or should that figure be added onto the “government spending” figure?

    Either way, as much as Blinglish likes to bleet on about it, even if core government spending increased, they still also paid down debt, resulting in lower interest payments into the future.

    • lprent 3.1
      10 December 2009 at 5:12 pm

      Same question – does that ‘spending’ include money invested in the cullen fund?

      Usually a half to a whole billion per year.

      • Lanthanide 3.1.1
        10 December 2009 at 8:29 pm

        Good point.

        You could even throw in Kiwisaver contributions as well, which in particular would make the current numbers a bit better. That’s a bit dicey though, because while the cullen fund has a track record of out-performing, kiwisaver performance has been a lot spottier, so the government might not be getting good value for money from that ‘spend’. It starts to become a slippery slope though – are you also going to start discounting health and education spending because they have net positives in the future from a healthier/more educated workforce, etc.

  4. ghostwhowalksnz 4
    10 December 2009 at 4:15 pm

    Does putting money in the Cullen Fund count as ‘spending’.?
    Does Working for Familes count as spending when its an ongoing tax credit?
    Does subsidies for Kiwisaver count as spending?

    And then theres ACC ‘levies’. They are paid into a pool for medical & wage insurance but do they count as income for the government. Yes, the non earners paid for by the govt is spending

  5. Homo Domesticus 5
    10 December 2009 at 4:24 pm

    What do you expect? Corrupt English is clueless, except when it comes to enriching himself from the public purse. He and most other ministers, including the donKey have no idea how to fix the economy. Presently, they are doing little and hoping that the world economy will pick up and drag us out of recession. That approach has largely worked up to now but I believe worst is to come in 2010 when many more businesses will hit the wall and unemployment will soar.

    What will English do to address this? Does he care?

    Homo d.

  6. felix 6
    10 December 2009 at 4:41 pm

    ben you’re such a weak apologist. Try studying how Tim “Ellis in Wonderland” does it – it’s all about subtly changing the subject and hoping no-one notices.

    • ben 6.1
      10 December 2009 at 5:50 pm

      I apologise for no one Felix, certainly not Bill English. My only point is that Marty is writing total over the top BS at almost every oppportunity. I’d call him on it just the same if he ever has the balls to accuse anyone in Labour of the same thing.

      • felix 6.1.1
        10 December 2009 at 5:53 pm

        So it’s the title of the post that has upset you so?

        • ben 6.1.1.1
          10 December 2009 at 6:01 pm

          Just that and most of the body text. Other than that, all good.

          • felix 6.1.1.1.1
            10 December 2009 at 6:03 pm

            I just checked the text and I can see why you might not like the last paragraph but I can’t understand what bothers you about the rest of it.

            Seems accurate to me – could you show where it’s wrong?

  7. Jim McDonald 7
    10 December 2009 at 4:41 pm

    Hmm, your piece reminds me of the saying … which can be paraphrased here … there are lies, damned lies and DD’s statistics.

    Funtastic!

    Is this an example of bringing one’s personal skills to public office and rearranging facts and figures to bolster one’s case for the budget that will be unveiled?

  8. Boris Clarkov 8
    10 December 2009 at 4:46 pm

    “If you stand on your head and squint, you’ll see that the Clark regime didn’t flush all of the wealth they overtaxed from us down the welfare toilet! We’re all actually prosperous!”

    • Bright Red 8.1
      10 December 2009 at 5:20 pm

      well, GDP per capita increased by 18% in real terms from 1999 to 2009, so yeah, we’re a lot richer per person than we were.

      And people who were on the $7 minimum wage or one of the 10% unemployed under National were a lot better off with the minimum wage up to $12 an hour and unemployment down to 3.5% under Labour.

      Come on Boris, what actually facts have you got to throw back… or is it just the bluster of a confused and angry old drunk?

  9. tsmithfield 9
    10 December 2009 at 5:10 pm

    If we compare this from the point of view of a company, our admin expenses have ranged from 290k to 330k over the last five years. Yet our gross sales have ranged from 1.5mil to 2.2 mil. So, as our sales have gone up, expenses have not gone up proportionally.

    So, as a percentage our admin costs have fallen from 19.3% to 15%.

    Thus, factors such as population etc will increase the costs somewhat, but it is incorrect to assume a straight-line relationship between Government spending and GDP. The increase in costs should be substantially less than the increase in GDP. Thus, on a percentage basis, there should be a percentage decline as GDP increases.

    So far as inflation is concerned, that has been very low over recent years. We also need to consider the impact of the NZ dollar on costs the government must fund. Over recent years the dollar has strengthened considerably, reducing a number of the costs the government must fund. Therefore, the inflation argument might not be as strong as you think.

    • Bright Red 9.1
      10 December 2009 at 5:23 pm

      the govt isn’t a company. it’s society’s expression of social power, tasked with providing things of social value. It is so large that it’s spending and revenue choices simply cannot be compared to a business – if it cuts spending when revenue goes down it deepens recessions.

      so that’s pretty much that analogy shot.

  10. BLiP 10
    10 December 2009 at 5:37 pm

    Blinglish must be suffering memory loss – its just a year ago he was praising Labour for leaving the country in such good shape in the face of an economic depression. Unless . . . unless . . . he was lying in the House yesterday?

  11. tsmithfield 11
    10 December 2009 at 6:27 pm

    Bright Red “the govt isn’t a company. it’s society’s expression of social power, tasked with providing things of social value. It is so large that it’s spending and revenue choices simply cannot be compared to a business” if it cuts spending when revenue goes down it deepens recessions.”

    Sorry, Red, but in many ways the Government does have many parallels to a company.

    The argument being made, as I understand it, is that as GDP goes up, government spending will increase as well. Thus, the argument being made here is that Labour’s spending figures are being misrepresented.

    However, it seems to me that Government expenditure should decrease in percentage terms, and perhaps even in nominal terms, when GDP increases. This is because, as GDP increases, it is reasonable to assume that resources are being used more efficiently. Thus, unemployment will probably be lower, and people will need less state support.

    Thus, on this basis, there seems to be little basis to argue that increasing GDP is an excuse for increased government expenditure.

    • Marty G 11.1
      10 December 2009 at 6:43 pm

      oh jesus. Not the ‘the government is like a big company’ thing again.

      It’s 30% of the economy, ts, and tha’ts just the core Crown not including local government and SOEs. That means it has macroeconomic effects on a scale no company can come near.

      of course spending goes up with GDP. You want more spending on roads and transport don’t you? You don’t think healthcare is as good as it could possibly be do you? How about education? Crime? People want to government to do more – as the capacity of the economy increases, so does government spending.

      But you will notice that when growth was at its strongest, govt spending/GDP was falling, because govt spending was growing as fast. That’s good fiscal policy – don’t pour fuel on a hot economy, but spend when the economy is in to doldrums, like now.

  12. tsmithfield 12
    10 December 2009 at 7:06 pm

    Marty “of course spending goes up with GDP. You want more spending on roads and transport don’t you? You don’t think healthcare is as good as it could possibly be do you? How about education? Crime? People want to government to do more as the capacity of the economy increases, so does government spending.”

    You have pointed out a very good parallel between government and business, Marty. A company that sets its cost structure for optimal business conditions is likely to suffer or fail if business conditions deteriorate. In a similar way, a government that sets its cost structure for the best economic environment in decades, as the last government had, is likewise going to run into major problems when those conditions suddenly change.

    The current government is simply trying to adjust expenditure to match the new environment. IMO they could be going a lot further.

    If we are not careful we could end up like Greece:

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8de7393a-e399-11de-9f4f-00144feab49a.html

    • Pascal's bookie 12.1
      10 December 2009 at 8:12 pm

      In a similar way, a government that sets its cost structure for the best economic environment in decades, as the last government had, is likewise going to run into major problems when those conditions suddenly change.

      But they didn’t set their ‘cost structure’ for the best economic environment in decades. At least not in the way that you imply. They paid back lots of debt for one thing. That was setting their cost structure for the best economic environment in decades. Obviously when the economic environement changes, they, ta da, change their ‘cost structure.

      There isn’t some optimum setting that will best suit conditions for any given economic climate. When the economy nose dives, private sector demand dries up, if it’s a global crisis, demand from exports dry up. That only leaves the govt. If they dry up, it’s spirals downward a go go. The task of govt during the good times is to make sure they are in a position to take up that slack. Which is nothing like a private business at all.

      If during the good times, a govt treated surpluses as ‘overtaxation’ and cut taxes blithely assuming that debt can be carried at similar levels to what a private sector company might find prudent, as some (cough brash cough) would have had us do, that’s when you get in the poo.

    • blacksand 12.2
      10 December 2009 at 10:18 pm

      If we are not careful we could end up like Greece

      well if Brash’d had his way (2005, or of course now…) we might well have ended up like Ireland and Iceland, the darlings of the right only a couple of years ago… Wasn’t Brashes plan to cut taxes and borrow while the things are good? Wasn’t Key’s line that he’d be pretty much like Brash just with a different tone. Then wasn’t it pretty much like Labour, but with a different tone…

  13. tsmithfield 13
    10 December 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Pascals Bookie “Obviously when the economic environement changes, they, ta da, change their ‘cost structure’.”

    Which is what the current government is trying to do without impacting on benefits etc. Hence, the only way left to bring expenditure under control is to look to reduce the size of government.

    I agree that the previous government managed to repay debt. But they could have done a lot more given the boom time they functioned in. When times are easy, it is possible to have lots of fat and get away with it. However, obviously, the level of previous expenditure is unsustainable given the new environment.

    What will result is similar to what has happened with many companies. They are forced to cut deep, and eliminate any waste or low priority expenditure. When growth resumes, companies that have taken these hard steps find themselves much more profitable. It will be the same with the current government if they prune expenditure sufficiently.

    Sure NZ has a low debt level at the moment. However, I can tell you, that from my business experience, the fixed costs will kill you very quickly if the income isn’t sufficient to cover them. It will be the same for NZ if we continue to run huge deficits.

    Take a look at Greece, as I mentioned earlier.

    • Pascal's bookie 13.1
      10 December 2009 at 10:03 pm

      Firstly, you failed to address most of my comment. The demand stuff in particular. the govt plays a role in the economy that the private sector simply can’t emulate. If the govt ignores this potential role, they miss out on a vary important potential tool.

      Secondly, govts aren’t established in order to be profitable, it’s not their reason for being. A fairly good precis of what they are for can be found in the US Declaration of Independence. I don’t think profitability even makes sense when talking about a govt. that’s why I think the analogy to a company fails most obviously, but I can accept that we may have to agree to differ.

      Thirdly, govts simply don’t face the same market pressures as companies do. Their creditors are a lot more forgiving for one thing as they know that govts can tax etc. There is no indication that our creditors are worried. The threatened downgrade didn’t eventuate, and the guy I heard after the budget from the sole credit rating co that was concerned, said his fears were allayed when the tax cuts were cancelled, (nothing to do with the cullen fund holiday).

    • blacksand 13.2
      10 December 2009 at 10:24 pm

      When times are easy, it is possible to have lots of fat and get away with it

      and remind us how much fat English’s special taskforce found? Good lord, John Key’s already blown the previous record hip-hop tour budget.

  14. tsmithfield 14
    10 December 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Its probably not surprising that we see things quite differently, although I appreciate your point of view.

    My perspective is that the reason for government should be to provide services that are not economical or possible to provide on an individual basis (e.g. hospitals, roads etc), maintain law and order, and foster international relations. Other than that, I don’t really see much further use or point of government.

    Given that perspective, its probably not surprising that we tend to disagree.

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    Life throws curveballs, and sometimes, those curveballs necessitate wiping your iPhone clean and starting anew. Whether you’re facing persistent software glitches, preparing to sell your device, or simply wanting a fresh start, knowing how to factory reset iPhone without a computer is a valuable skill. While using a computer with ...
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  • How to Call Someone on a Computer: A Guide to Voice and Video Communication in the Digital Age
    Gone are the days when communication was limited to landline phones and physical proximity. Today, computers have become powerful tools for connecting with people across the globe through voice and video calls. But with a plethora of applications and methods available, how to call someone on a computer might seem ...
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  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #16 2024
    Open access notables Glacial isostatic adjustment reduces past and future Arctic subsea permafrost, Creel et al., Nature Communications: Sea-level rise submerges terrestrial permafrost in the Arctic, turning it into subsea permafrost. Subsea permafrost underlies ~ 1.8 million km2 of Arctic continental shelf, with thicknesses in places exceeding 700 m. Sea-level variations over glacial-interglacial cycles control ...
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  • Where on a Computer is the Operating System Generally Stored? Delving into the Digital Home of your ...
    The operating system (OS) is the heart and soul of a computer, orchestrating every action and interaction between hardware and software. But have you ever wondered where on a computer is the operating system generally stored? The answer lies in the intricate dance between hardware and software components, particularly within ...
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  • How Many Watts Does a Laptop Use? Understanding Power Consumption and Efficiency
    Laptops have become essential tools for work, entertainment, and communication, offering portability and functionality. However, with rising energy costs and growing environmental concerns, understanding a laptop’s power consumption is more important than ever. So, how many watts does a laptop use? The answer, unfortunately, isn’t straightforward. It depends on several ...
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    1 day ago

  • How to Screen Record on a Dell Laptop A Guide to Capturing Your Screen with Ease
    Screen recording has become an essential tool for various purposes, such as creating tutorials, capturing gameplay footage, recording online meetings, or sharing information with others. Fortunately, Dell laptops offer several built-in and external options for screen recording, catering to different needs and preferences. This guide will explore various methods on ...
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  • How Much Does it Cost to Fix a Laptop Screen? Navigating Repair Options and Costs
    A cracked or damaged laptop screen can be a frustrating experience, impacting productivity and enjoyment. Fortunately, laptop screen repair is a common service offered by various repair shops and technicians. However, the cost of fixing a laptop screen can vary significantly depending on several factors. This article delves into the ...
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    1 day ago

  • How Long Do Gaming Laptops Last? Demystifying Lifespan and Maximizing Longevity
    Gaming laptops represent a significant investment for passionate gamers, offering portability and powerful performance for immersive gaming experiences. However, a common concern among potential buyers is their lifespan. Unlike desktop PCs, which allow for easier component upgrades, gaming laptops have inherent limitations due to their compact and integrated design. This ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Climate Change: Turning the tide
    The annual inventory report of New Zealand's greenhouse gas emissions has been released, showing that gross emissions have dropped for the third year in a row, to 78.4 million tons: All-told gross emissions have decreased by over 6 million tons since the Zero Carbon Act was passed in 2019. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago

  • How to Unlock Your Computer A Comprehensive Guide to Regaining Access
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    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Faxing from Your Computer A Modern Guide to Sending Documents Digitally
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    1 day ago

  • Protecting Your Home Computer A Guide to Cyber Awareness
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    1 day ago

  • Server-Based Computing Powering the Modern Digital Landscape
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  • Vroom vroom go the big red trucks
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    1 day ago

  • Jones finds $410,000 to help the government muscle in on a spat project
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    1 day ago

  • Again, hate crimes are not necessarily terrorism.
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    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 day ago

  • Despair – construction consenting edition
    Eric Crampton writes – Kainga Ora is the government’s house building agency. It’s been building a lot of social housing. Kainga Ora has its own (but independent) consenting authority, Consentium. It’s a neat idea. Rather than have to deal with building consents across each different territorial authority, Kainga Ora ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • Coalition promises – will the Govt keep the commitment to keep Kiwis equal before the law?
    Muriel Newman writes – The Coalition Government says it is moving with speed to deliver campaign promises and reverse the damage done by Labour. One of their key commitments is to “defend the principle that New Zealanders are equal before the law.” To achieve this, they have pledged they “will not advance ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • An impermanent public service is a guarantee of very little else but failure
    Chris Trotter writes –  The absence of anything resembling a fightback from the public servants currently losing their jobs is interesting. State-sector workers’ collective fatalism in the face of Coalition cutbacks indicates a surprisingly broad acceptance of impermanence in the workplace. Fifty years ago, lay-offs in the thousands ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • What happens after the war – Mariupol
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    Open ParachuteBy Ken
    1 day ago

  • Babies and benefits – no good news
    Lindsay Mitchell writes – Ten years ago, I wrote the following in a Listener column: Every year around one in five new-born babies will be reliant on their caregivers benefit by Christmas. This pattern has persisted from at least 1993. For Maori the number jumps to over one in three.  ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • Should the RBNZ be looking through climate inflation?
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell on the public sector carnage, and misogyny as terrorism
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    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    2 days ago

  • Meeting the Master Baiters
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  • How extreme was the Earth's temperature in 2023
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    2 days ago

  • Backbone, revisited
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago

  • Ministers are not above the law
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago

  • What’s the outfit you can hear going down the gurgler? Probably it’s David Parker’s Oceans Sec...
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago

  • Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Matt Doocey doubles down on trans “healthcare”
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • A TikTok Prime Minister.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    2 days ago

  • Texas Lessons
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    3 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links at 6:06 am
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours as of 6:06 am on Wednesday, April 17 are:Must read: Secrecy shrouds which projects might be fast-tracked RNZ Farah HancockScoop: Revealed: Luxon has seven staffers working on social media content - partly paid for by taxpayer Newshub ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Fighting poverty on the holiday highway
    Turning what Labour called the “holiday highway” into a four-lane expressway from Auckland to Whangarei could bring at least an economic benefit of nearly two billion a year for Northland each year. And it could help bring an end to poverty in one of New Zealand’s most deprived regions. The ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    3 days ago

  • Bernard's six-stack of substacks at 6:26 pm
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • At a glance – Is the science settled?
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  • Apposite Quotations.
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    Bowalley Road
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  • What’s a life worth now?
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago

  • Howling at the Moon
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Newshub is Dead.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
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  • Seymour is chuffed about cutting early-learning red tape – but we hear, too, that Jones has loose...
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
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  • Bryce Edwards: Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
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    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    3 days ago

  • Was Hawkesby entirely wrong?
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • PRC shadow looms as the Solomons head for election
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Climate Change: Criminal ecocide
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago

  • Is saving one minute of a politician's time worth nearly $1 billion?
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Long Tunnel or Long Con?
    Yesterday it was revealed that Transport Minister had asked Waka Kotahi to look at the options for a long tunnel through Wellington. State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the ...
    Greater AucklandBy Matt L
    4 days ago

  • Smoke And Mirrors.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago

  • What is Mexico doing about climate change?
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    Skeptical Science
    4 days ago

  • State of humanity, 2024
    2024, it feels, keeps presenting us with ever more challenges, ever more dismay.Do you give up yet? It seems to ask.No? How about this? Or this?How about this?When I say 2024 I really mean the state of humanity in 2024.Saturday night, we watched Civil War because that is one terrifying cliff we've ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago

  • Govt’s Wellington tunnel vision aims to ease the way to the airport (but zealous promoters of cycl...
    Buzz from the Beehive A pet project and governmental tunnel vision jump out from the latest batch of ministerial announcements. The government is keen to assure us of its concern for the wellbeing of our pets. It will be introducing pet bonds in a change to the Residential Tenancies Act ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago

  • The case for cultural connectedness
    A recent report generated from a Growing Up in New Zealand (GUiNZ) survey of 1,224 rangatahi Māori aged 11-12 found: Cultural connectedness was associated with fewer depression symptoms, anxiety symptoms and better quality of life. That sounds cut and dry. But further into the report the following appears: Cultural connectedness is ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Useful context on public sector job cuts
    David Farrar writes –    The Herald reports: From the gory details of job-cuts news, you’d think the public service was being eviscerated.   While the media’s view of the cuts is incomplete, it’s also true that departments have been leaking the particulars faster than a Wellington ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell On When Racism Comes Disguised As Anti-racism
    Remember the good old days, back when New Zealand had a PM who could think and speak calmly and intelligently in whole sentences without blustering? Even while Iran’s drones and missiles were still being launched, Helen Clark was live on TVNZ expertly summing up the latest crisis in the Middle ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    4 days ago

  • Govt ignored economic analysis of smokefree reversal
    Costello did not pass on analysis of the benefits of the smokefree reforms to Cabinet, emphasising instead the extra tax revenues of repealing them. Photo: Hagen Hopkins, Getty Images TL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me at 7:26 am today are:The Lead: Casey Costello never passed on ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago

  • True Blue.
    True loveYou're the one I'm dreaming ofYour heart fits me like a gloveAnd I'm gonna be true blueBaby, I love youI’ve written about the job cuts in our news media last week. The impact on individuals, and the loss to Aotearoa of voices covering our news from different angles.That by ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    5 days ago

  • Who is running New Zealand’s foreign policy?
    While commentators, including former Prime Minister Helen Clark, are noting a subtle shift in New Zealand’s foreign policy, which now places more emphasis on the United States, many have missed a key element of the shift. What National said before the election is not what the government is doing now. ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    5 days ago

  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #15
    A listing of 31 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, April 7, 2024 thru Sat, April 13, 2024. Story of the week Our story of the week is about adults in the room setting terms and conditions of ...
    Skeptical Science
    5 days ago

  • $41m to support clean energy in South East Asia
    New Zealand is demonstrating its commitment to reducing global greenhouse emissions, and supporting clean energy transition in South East Asia, through a contribution of NZ$41 million (US$25 million) in climate finance to the Asian Development Bank (ADB)-led Energy Transition Mechanism (ETM). Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Climate Change Minister Simon Watts announced ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 hours ago

  • Minister releases Fast-track stakeholder list
    The Government is today releasing a list of organisations who received letters about the Fast-track applications process, says RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop. “Recently Ministers and agencies have received a series of OIA requests for a list of organisations to whom I wrote with information on applying to have a ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    8 hours ago

  • Judicial appointments announced
    Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister David Jonathan Boldt as a Judge of the High Court, and the Honourable Justice Matthew Palmer as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Boldt graduated with an LLB from Victoria University of Wellington in 1990, and also holds ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    8 hours ago

  • Education Minister heads to major teaching summit in Singapore
    Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa.  The summit is co-hosted ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    9 hours ago

  • Value of stopbank project proven during cyclone
    A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    9 hours ago

  • Anzac commemorations, Türkiye relationship focus of visit
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul.    “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    10 hours ago

  • Minister to Europe for OECD meeting, Anzac Day
    Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    12 hours ago

  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    23 hours ago

  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
    RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
    Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • School attendance restored as a priority in health advice
    Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sector
    Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Patterson promoting NZ’s wool sector at International Congress
    Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector.    "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Removing red tape to help early learners thrive
    The Government is making legislative changes to make it easier for new early learning services to be established, and for existing services to operate, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. The changes involve repealing the network approval provisions that apply when someone wants to establish a new early learning service, ...
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