Empty promises on employment law

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1. Pascal's bookie 1

   22 July 2010 at 7:40 am

   Good catch r0b
2. Bored 2

   22 July 2010 at 7:45 am

   Takes me back to Jim Bolgers “Decent Society”….and the sickening feeling in the pit of my stomach as I listened to Ruth Bitchardsons “Mother of all budgets”…aka kill the poor. Here we go again.

   PS We did not fight enough last time, reckon we will do any better this time?
3. kriswgtn 3

   22 July 2010 at 8:01 am

   If people get off their collective asses

   Yes

   and people get out to vote next year to vote them out
   • Bunnykinz 3.1

     22 July 2010 at 11:57 pm

     As much as I hate National, I can’t see much leadership being taken on these issues other than a lot of griping by other parties to suggest that we should be voting for them to recitfy the situation rather than voting for them simply because they are the alternative. Admittedly, I am trying follow these chages from the UK so might not be privvy to the fantastic actions taken by Labour and the Greens, but it does look a lot like they are simply twiddling their thumbs waiting for National to gift an election to them. Is there anyone else who has this impression? Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
     • loota 3.1.1

       23 July 2010 at 1:56 am

       Labour needs to do more. Probably keeping its powder dry at the moment. Greens appear most proactive currently, and have won some share as they have moved away from the ‘loony left’ label and Labour has not taken enough obvious ownership of various green issues, including the mining and consequent mining background.

       Given recent favourable polling, the Greens will be seriously considering how they might be able to get 9-10-11% of the Party vote next elections.
       • Bunnykinz 3.1.1.1

         23 July 2010 at 2:45 am

         I know what you mean about “keeping its powder dry”, but do you not find it a bit offensive that in a time like this, rather than coming out swinging and acting as a real opposition, they may be thinking in terms of future electioneering? I realise that it is a double-edged sword where the best way to affect real change is to win, but really, I want the opposition to fight tooth and nail for my (well, in this case, your) rights no matter how it will impact on their election chances.

         Labour’s big problem is that it seems like everytime an opportunity arises for it to paint itself as “friend of the people”, it seems like they are waiting for a better opportunity, and will probably end up losing an election with a perfectly dry “powder keg”.

         Again, this is just from my remote perspective.
4. tc 4

   22 July 2010 at 9:01 am

   The numbers don’t lie…..little or no growth, people leaving for good, unemployment levels combined with a standard of living in decline being reflected in rising crime stats.

   Then there’s the nat induced inflationary pressure from ETS, ACC, GST rises, the usual attacks on workers rights/education/welfare. This’s not un-expected by those of us with memories of the last 2 nat govts.

   NZ can’t afford another term of this whichever way you look at it….labour may have become stale under Clark but they had vision, a plan and they could walk the talk not just smile and wave.
   • just saying 4.1

     22 July 2010 at 9:10 am

     “….they had a vision, a plan, and they could walk the talk…..”

     Do tell…

     And do they have the same vision/plan now?

     Seriously, with the election likely a year off, and with Key electioneering has arse off, when IS Labour going to release policy?
     • Pete 4.1.1

       22 July 2010 at 9:52 am

       Fair point re current Labour policy, but you can’t seriously be suggesting that Key is “electioneering his arse off”…

       …unless you are talking about his constant photo opportunities, openings and hugging (crying) babies?
       • Draco T Bastard 4.1.1.1

         22 July 2010 at 1:33 pm

         In academic circles it’s generally accepted the electioneering happens all the time now.
         • Pete 4.1.1.1.1

           22 July 2010 at 3:36 pm

           Yep – they pin it on our three-year election cycle.

           I’d tend to agree. But having to wait another year for a chance to elect a new governemnt would be enough to drive me spare…
           • Draco T Bastard 4.1.1.1.1.1

             22 July 2010 at 5:28 pm

             Even in 4 year election cycles it’s considered to be happening all the time. IMO, it’s why we never get policy discussion any more. Actual discussion doesn’t fit into a biased 10 second sound bite.
   • Lanthanide 4.2

     22 July 2010 at 11:58 am

     “Then there’s the nat induced inflationary pressure from ETS”
     Under labour the inflationary pressure would have been greater. So I don’t think you can really pin this on the nats.
5. just saying 5

   22 July 2010 at 10:08 am

   And the rest. You don’t think with Key, it’s all about winning another term?
6. bbfloyd 6

   22 July 2010 at 11:19 am

   there is no doubt in my mind that ron(key) has been electioneering since the day he took office. in fact, that is the sole reason he is there(as leader) in my opinion. he has been the perfect decoy for those who would have us stripped of any rights to a decent standard of living while indulging in wholesale asset stripping and profiteering.
7. Maggie 7

   22 July 2010 at 12:17 pm

   Interesting to note surrent legislation allows an employer to require a sick notice for one day if there is good reason to suspect the leave isn’t genuine. So what is Kate Wilkinson on about?
8. Len 8

   22 July 2010 at 12:21 pm

   This article is emotive rubbish, not one did he “promise” any of those things and is typical of the red poppy sydrome found on this site
   • Roger 8.1

     22 July 2010 at 12:50 pm

     So you’re ok with politicians telling blatant lies to get elected because you don’t believe it was a ‘promise’?
   • Draco T Bastard 8.2

     22 July 2010 at 1:37 pm

     Ah, another Jonkey government apologist, enabling the present lying, psychopathic NACT government.
9. Ryan 9

   22 July 2010 at 12:29 pm

   @Len. I heard those promises made by the NATS.. Why is it that right wingers come to blog there comments (lies) here? Go lubber off to whale oil, and bbfloyd.. It’s not called profiteering its called CORRUPTION.
10. Green Tea 10

    22 July 2010 at 1:28 pm

    “National’s promises aren’t worth the paper that they’re printed on”

    You should ask if the CTU’s promise to (actually) fight these measures is worth the paper they’re printed on.
11. Margaret 11

    22 July 2010 at 2:14 pm

    I sing this to the tune of “I’m a lumberjack & I’m okay” that TV add, with blokes, chainsaws and pink stockings!

    I’m a millionaire and I’m okay
    Don’t have to worry about anyone else.
    I sleep all night, I’m PM by day
    And Crosby and Textor tell me what to say.

    Authoritarian Daddy State
    Thats my job, to set it all up.

    We’ll cut the workers to the bone
    We’ll arm the Police as they oppose,
    We’ll load them up with massive debt
    we’ll have endentured labour for years and years.

    Next verse… anyone?

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