ToryAid: The Standard resurrects Wastewatch

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Remember wastewatch.co.nz? It’s National’s site listing all the ‘government waste’. From six years of Labour government it managed to find a grand total of $1 billion in waste (0.32% of Government spending or a 10 cent a week tax cut) and most of that wasn’t ‘waste’ it included the entire $400 million for the new prisons, for example. Wastewatch has been on ‘a few months hiatus’ for two years now but, as National is now bringing back ‘cut waste to fund tax cuts’, we thought we would resurrect wastewatch for them.

Here’s the waste National has identified so far:

Embassy in Sweden – approx $3 million capital, $3 million operating

Why it’s waste: an embassy, in Sweden, hello! What are they going to do, create an ABBA cover-group exchange?

Why it’s not a waste: Sweden is a major source of tourism and many kiwis visit there. Having embassies in-country enables tourism and helps tourists when they get into distress. Sweden and neighbouring countries are potential growth markets for our products. Sweden is also a major player in the EU and it would be valuable to have more influence on EU trade decisions. We share many common values with the Scandinavian countries and often cooperate internationally, an embassy helps build on that. We don’t have an embassy in Scandinavia at present.

Potential tax cut instead of this ‘waste’: 2 cents a week each.

Cumulative total of National-identified ‘waste’: 2 cents a week or, since cheese has become the prime denominator of value in our political discourse (thanks, Irish), 1.5 grams of Mainland Mild cheese a week

We’ll update wastewatch for National if they identify any more ‘waste’.

66 comments on “ToryAid: The Standard resurrects Wastewatch ”

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  1. Lampie 1
    27 May 2008 at 1:42 pm

    Bugger, thats a crumb of cheese, make your party vote National oh yay

  2. Steve Pierson 2
    27 May 2008 at 1:45 pm

    Hey, thanks to the Standardista who did the underlining in the post – looks much better now.

  3. Tane 3
    27 May 2008 at 1:46 pm

    Lampie, clearly you’re not giving National enough credit. A 2 cent a week tax cut incentivises thrift, meaning if you’re ambitious enough to save that 2 cents a week for a year then by the end of it you’ll have a cool buck to blow on processed cheese. That’s gotta be at least three or four slices worth.

  4. Lampie 4
    27 May 2008 at 1:52 pm

    Really??? gee Mr Key, your my hero, now i can afford processed cheese on my $75K salary

  5. rjs131 5
    27 May 2008 at 2:02 pm

    What about Judith tizards ministerial salary and her travel expenses?

  6. Tane 6
    27 May 2008 at 2:07 pm

    What about Judith tizards ministerial salary and her travel expenses?

    What about Judith Tizard’s ministerial salary and her travel expenses?

  7. Ari 7
    27 May 2008 at 2:08 pm

    Ok, I have to admit the the 1.5 grams of cheese bit got a good laugh 🙂

  8. mike 8
    27 May 2008 at 2:08 pm

    here’s a few mil to get us started

    The Families Commission
    Sky Hawk mothballing
    Judith Tizards Salary…bugger rjs beat me to it

  9. Steve Pierson 9
    27 May 2008 at 2:10 pm

    Well, without going into whether she’s a ‘waste’ or not – her salary would be in the order of 175K but if she were gone there would still be an MP on 110K. So, 65K saving there, and her travel expenses were what? I don’t know and can’t be bothered finding out but I’ll make a generous guess of 50K.

    So, no Tizard saves 110K (assuming her ministerial staff would be reallocated, rather than dismissed).

    110,000 divided by 3.2 million divided by 52 = 0.06 cents a week. I’m spending mine on bubblegum.

    But you do prove a valuable point, rjs131 and that is that the criticisms you bring up are really not just small beer but infinitesimally small beer in the scheme of things.

  10. Steve Pierson 10
    27 May 2008 at 2:15 pm

    mike. provide me with dollar figures on the skyhawks and the Families Commission and I’ll tell you how much of a taxcut it is.

    Or you can work it out yourself.

    For a one-off cost: tax cuts = cost divided by 10 (rough discount rate to get present value) divided by 3.2 million (taxpayers) divided by 52.15 (weeks in a year).

    For an operational cost: tax cuts = annual cost divided by 3.2 million (taxpayers) divided by 52.15 (weeks in a year).

    Remember to give $1 a week to each kiwi you need eliminate a one-off cost worth $1.7 billion or an operating cost worth $170 million a year.

  11. Brett Dale 11
    27 May 2008 at 2:26 pm

    Exactly what is the number of tourists from Sweden that come to NZ each year? and what percentage is it?

    Also who the heck ever gets in distress by visiting Sweden?

    [don’t wear your ignorance as a badge. Most of the day to day operations of embassies are taken up helping their nationals who are in distress or sorting out visa and passport issues. SP]

  12. Matthew Pilott 12
    27 May 2008 at 2:29 pm

    The PSA are asking parties how they’re going to fund tax cuts – if the Nats give a substantial answer you might see a bit more “waste” to mock – doubtful though!

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/feature/story.cfm?c_id=1501935&objectid=10512542

  13. Brett Dale 13
    27 May 2008 at 2:30 pm

    Here is some waste for ya.

    NZ on Air
    Any Cultural Diversity Program
    Any program telling people how to eat/drink/sleep

    and worse of all

    “BUY NEW ZEALAND” ads on TV.

    You should buy a product because its the best value and highest quality.

  14. mike 14
    27 May 2008 at 2:31 pm

    Steve, I can see your point but at the same time waste is waste. Who cares how small it is, it’s a culture thing.
    As my CEO says “save cents and the dollars will come”.

  15. Steve Pierson 15
    27 May 2008 at 2:43 pm

    Brett. To make the argument that spending is waste you have to show that an alternaive action would deliver the same utlity for less cost. Just blanket labelling of anything you don’t like as waste doesn’t cut it.

    Take the Skyhawks, for example. What is the alternative that would save money?

  16. gobsmacked 16
    27 May 2008 at 2:43 pm

    And yet again, we are arguing with fantasists.

    Time to spell it out again in super slo-mo.

    IT. IS. NOT. NATIONAL. POLICY. TO. ABOLISH. THOSE. THINGS.

    They are promising to keep them, therefore they are still “wasting” the money. Got it?

    Look, I appreciate you Helen-haters must be incredibly frustrated that Key is flip-flopping weekly (weakly) and won’t give you your wish list. But could we please debate on the basis of what National REALLY SAY THEY WILL DO – not on what you make up.

    (Unless you’re planning to vote for somebody else, of course. Who?).

  17. Steve Pierson 17
    27 May 2008 at 2:44 pm

    Also, what is with the auto-picture thing’s obession with assigning people swastika-type patterns? Poor mike looks like he’s a Nazi environmentalist.

    [lprent: This is usually where I say read the FAQ. But seeing how it is you, I’d guess the question was rhetorical 🙂 ]

  18. Billy 18
    27 May 2008 at 2:45 pm

    Good point about the “Buy NZ Made” ads. Has a single extra NZ-made good been bought as a result? Doubt it. $6.3m for nothing.

    PS I accept that this alone would not get me that tax cut I’m after, but it’d fund a bunch of herceptin.

    [hey, now there’s great argument style: find a programme you don’t like, assert it has a certain narrow goal, assert that it has failed to meet that goal (provide no evidence), conclude the programme is a waste of money. SP]

  19. Lampie 19
    27 May 2008 at 2:47 pm

    “You should buy a product because its the best value and highest quality.”

    Yeah right, like that really happens in a price driven market

  20. Billy 20
    27 May 2008 at 2:50 pm

    Since Steve started on a site-related tangent, when I did a search this morning using that very good new search thing, it told me a kitten had cried because the Standard wasn’t paying for the search engine. I hope you guys aren’t exploiting people.

  21. mike 21
    27 May 2008 at 2:51 pm

    “Poor mike looks like he’s a Nazi environmentalist.”

    Well they were into recycling eveything Steve…

    I can only see a little red x on everyone so none the wiser.

  22. r0b 22
    27 May 2008 at 2:58 pm

    Also, what is with the auto-picture thing’s obession with assigning people swastika-type patterns? Poor mike looks like he’s a Nazi environmentalist.

    The “identicons”. They are generated by working out a pattern for one quarter of the image (e.g. top left quarter) and then rotating around the image centre in three 90 degree steps to fill in the other three quarters. It’s a method that is almost guaranteed to produce swastika-like designs. Probably the work of a fan of Godwin’s law.

  23. gobsmacked 23
    27 May 2008 at 2:59 pm

    “Buy NZ Made” is part of the co-operation agreement between the government and the Greens.

    John Key said National could easily sign up to that agreement.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=39&objectid=10443077

    Which is why he never mentions it as something National would scrap.

  24. Stephen 24
    27 May 2008 at 3:05 pm

    eh? it would be a different agreement, surely.

  25. Killinginthenameof 25
    27 May 2008 at 3:05 pm

    On the subject of cheese, how much cheese does every one here eat?

  26. Matthew Pilott 26
    27 May 2008 at 3:07 pm

    “You should buy a product because its the best value and highest quality”

    No such perfect information!

    There is a demand for local goods – given the advantage to our economy I don’t see the broblem with enhancing their profile and making it easier to find and buy them.

    The market is also an abject and dismal disaster when it comes to internalising its own failures. Given there’s no way the market can account for pollution or slavery wages, many people buy local so they know that a fair wage was paid, kids didn’t make it and it wasn’t shipped thousands of miles after being made in an environmental disaster of a factory.

    Some of us like NZ made!

  27. gobsmacked 27
    27 May 2008 at 3:11 pm

    If National are planning to save money on “Buy NZ made”, why haven’t they said so?

    Stephen, read the article linked above.

  28. Stephen 28
    27 May 2008 at 3:27 pm

    whoops

  29. Billy 29
    27 May 2008 at 3:46 pm

    “assert [a programme you don’t like] has a certain narrow goal”

    OK, Smartypants.

    There I was thinking the only possible goal for a campaign called “Buy Kiwi Made” was to get people buying NZ made products. I am always willing to learn SP, what were its other goals? Making Oliver Driver look stupid? It’d be nice if they were measurable, but I am not expecting too much. If you use the word “awareness” I will personally hunt you down and knee you in the ballocks.

    “assert that it has failed to meet that goal (provide no evidence)”

    I didn’t assert anything. I asked a question and speculated on what I thought the answer would probably be. Given that I think we can assume that getting people buying more NZ made products than before the programme was implimented was at least one of the goals of the programme, and given that you are so fckuing clever, how about you providing some evidence that it has acheived that goal?

  30. Lampie 30
    27 May 2008 at 4:02 pm

    On the subject of cheese, how much cheese does every one here eat?

    Under National, I get 4 slices of processed fat!!!!

    VOTE NATIONAL

    [lprent: If you want to put election advertisments in here, then I’d expect that you will
    a) Negoitiate a rate first.
    b) Put the relevent permissions in.
    c) Get permission from me – which you will not get, because we don’t allow advertising here.

    Read this and be warned that we have more policy than some political parties. Also read the topic on Banning, because if you advertise here again, then that is what will happen to you.]

    [to be fair, to Lampie, it was sarcastic.SP]

    [lprent: I know, checked on his messages. I have a big flag about advertising (even in sarcasm), because it can cause issues if it becomes common practice in a forum. I prefer to do preemptive strikes, rather than having to do too much effort later in reactive mode.

    Besides, it has been a bit quiet for my inmoderate moderation style for week or so now. Have to relieve the boredom of scanning messages somehow.]

  32. Billy 32
    27 May 2008 at 4:20 pm

    Only, it doesn’t claim they’ve achieved anything. And they use the word “awareness”…

  33. Steve Pierson 33
    27 May 2008 at 4:23 pm

    Of course it doesn’t say they’ve achieved anything, it’s a Cabient paper from before the programme started stating the goals. As you can see they’re not merely monetary.

    jesus.

  34. Billy 34
    27 May 2008 at 4:24 pm

    So you are unable to provide evidence that it has achieved anything?

  35. Steve Pierson 35
    27 May 2008 at 4:27 pm

    I’m not seeking to. I’m addressing your assertion that the programme is merely to increase sales.

    And, of course, it would be impossible to determine how much extra sales of NZ goods are resulting from this ongoing programme. there are too many other variables at play.

  36. Matthew Pilott 36
    27 May 2008 at 5:06 pm

    Lynn P – “Read this and be warned that we have more policy than some political parties.”

    Biggest laugh of the day.

    The problem I have with such “this is waste” programmes is that it is generally always hopelessly opinionated and without sound reasoning – and the ridiculous results that ensue, as I shall expound.

    Note Key’s embassy gag – that reads like a guide for “how to classify something as waste without engineering a serious discussion”.

    Billy hates NZ made. Well I make P and run a human trafficking organisation – the NZ Police, MAF, NZ Customs and Immigration are all a bloody waste, I say, get rid of them all!

    You can clearly give examples that show the four organs of the state I listed provide benefit to NZ – but it is difficult to provide qualitative evidence.

    Which is saying, in sum, if it doesn’t make money, the government shouldn’t be involved in it – because there’s no quantitative benefit.

    This is, I’m sure most will agree, very ironic, given that people on the right can get fired up when you suggest the Government tries to make a spot of dough (like when I suggested we buy Tiwai Point…), yet they seem to be advocating only retaining organs of state that are financially sound!

  37. Lampie 37
    27 May 2008 at 5:08 pm

    Too right it was sarcastic SP, hahaha

  38. Lampie 38
    27 May 2008 at 5:17 pm

    There I was thinking the only possible goal for a campaign called “Buy Kiwi Made’ was to get people buying NZ made products. I am always willing to learn SP, what were its other goals? Making Oliver Driver look stupid? It’d be nice if they were measurable, but I am not expecting too much. If you use the word “awareness’

    Hmmm sounds like you don’t fully understand the concept of advertising. If a Marketing Manager had a sales objective with their advertising campaign, then she/he would be fired very shortly afterwords. Advertising has no sales objectives, it has awareness objectives (don’t bellieve a marketing grad, then ask Mr Roberts then). The resulting “sales” that may arise from the advertising campaign is a symptom, a by-product, whatever you like to call it.

    As SP said, too many varibles plus how do you measure it’s success or failure?

  39. Billy 39
    27 May 2008 at 6:09 pm

    “don’t bellieve a marketing grad, then ask Mr Roberts then”

    You mean Kevin Roberts? What’s he do for a job? Wonder why he’d think spending $6m on advertising was a good idea?

    And you’re right of course, Matthew, this campaign is almost certainly as valuable as the police and customs.

  40. lprent 40
    27 May 2008 at 6:12 pm

    I have to disagree with Steve about the JK’s Swedish embassy remarks. It has value – I can see it in the stats.

    It has made the number of Swedish visitors to this site dramatically increase in the last few days. If the trend continues then they may hit 1% in a few weeks. In the last week they have become our 3rd biggest visitor country of origion along with Canada and Hong Kong (and some bloody spammers in Bulgaria – now that I’ve nuked the russian spammers, bulgaria has become visible).

    So I’d guess that JK’s remark has been noticed in Sweden. I wonder what they think about it?

  41. crashtard 41
    27 May 2008 at 6:58 pm

    In the house today the Nats found more ‘waste’. They hounded Maryan Street for a $65k (if I recall correctly) HCNZ conference that saw 94 staff coming together to focus on more efficient service delivery.

    Phil Heatly was completely oblivious to the irony that he was a guest speaker at a private sector housing conference that cost over $1400 per person for 1 day!

    $65,000 dollars, chalk it up – how many grams of cheese can we get there?

  42. Lampie 42
    27 May 2008 at 7:14 pm

    You mean Kevin Roberts? What’s he do for a job? Wonder why he’d think spending $6m on advertising was a good idea?

    How much would you spend then? How much would YOU spend promoting New Zealand business??Now step back and THINK who would see that, who would be exposed to adverts. (i’m not just thinking Kiwis)

  43. Matthew Pilott 43
    27 May 2008 at 7:19 pm

    Billy – does a government function have to have equal, if not of greater, importance than the Police before it’s ok?

    Crashtard – that was just on JC live. I’m pretty stoked, we have a new National Policy – that makes it four and counting (slooooowly)!

    No more high quality work conferences for state agencies.

    I think that will get us about a cent each…a year.

    Go Team Tory Waste Busters!

  44. Billy 44
    27 May 2008 at 7:25 pm

    “How much would you spend then?”

    Nothin’. It almost certainly does no good. Or, put another way, no one can demonstrate it does any good.

    Incidentally, I think I am in what you guys would consider pretty good company on this. I seem to recall Dr Cullen was very skeptical but recognised it was a small price to pay (with our money) to keep the Greens happy.

  45. MikeE 45
    27 May 2008 at 8:43 pm

    You could always get rid of:

    Department of Building and Housing
    Department of Labour
    Education Review Office
    Ministry for Culture and Heritage
    Ministry for the Environment
    Ministry for the Environment
    Ministry of Māori Development
    Ministry of Pacific Island Affairs
    Ministry of Social Development (Work and Income New Zealand is its trading name)
    Ministry of Women’s Affairs
    New Zealand Food Safety Authority
    Serious Fraud Office
    Accident Compensation Corporation
    Career Services
    Civil Aviation Authority
    Earthquake Commission
    Electricity Commission
    Energy Efficiency and Conservation Authority
    Health Sponsorship Council
    Housing New Zealand Corporation
    New Zealand Antarctic Institute
    New Zealand Blood Service
    New Zealand Tourism Board
    Pharmaceutical Management Agency
    Social Workers Registration Board
    Sport and Recreation New Zealand
    Tertiary Education Commission
    Alcohol Advisory Council of New Zealand
    Arts Council of New Zealand Toi Aotearoa
    Broadcasting Commission
    Charities Commission
    Environmental Risk Management Authority
    Families Commission
    Government Superannuation Fund Authority
    Guardians of New Zealand Superannuation
    Mental Health Commission
    Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tongarewa
    New Zealand Artificial Limb Board
    New Zealand Film Commission
    New Zealand Historic Places Trust (Pouhere Taonga)
    New Zealand Lotteries Commission
    New Zealand Symphony Orchestra
    New Zealand Teachers Council
    Public Trust
    Retirement Commissioner
    Standards Council
    Te Reo Whakapuaki Irirangi (Maori Broadcasting Funding Agency)
    Te Taura Whiri I Te Reo Māori (Māori Language Commission)
    Testing Laboratory Registration Council
    Accounting Standards Review Board
    Broadcasting Standards Authority
    Children’s Commissioner
    Drug Free Sport New Zealand
    Health and Disability Commissioner
    Human Rights Commission
    Office of Film and Literature Classification
    Takeovers Panel
    Transport Accident Investigation Commission

    etc etc

    Of course I’m not saying disband them all – but theres a hell of a lot of public service departments that flat out don’t need to exist.

    [MikeE. lol. I see you’ve been to the SSC and grabbed one fo their lsits of government organisations. I know you probably haven’t heard of a lot of these organisations but that doesn’t mean what they do isn’t worthwhile. I could go through all of them and tell you why they’re worthwhile but it’s not worth my time. Tell you what – select one of the above, find out what it does and tell us why that is a waste of time. SP]

  46. randal 46
    27 May 2008 at 9:02 pm

    I never eat cheese but I know it when I see it. anyway the national programme is still to disable government because basically they say they dont agree with it but only government can do those things that people need when the market cant and wont. Till National, and this goes for the whole conservative ‘movement’ decides how they are going to make government work properly for citizens and not seek to pull it down in an orgiastic ideological frenzy then they have no show. remember what happened to newt gingrich when he tried to halt the government. he was gone before tuesday…hhhahahahahaha

  47. Matthew Pilott 47
    27 May 2008 at 9:26 pm

    Mike E – there are two Ministries for the Environment! Quick – get rid of one!

  48. Tane 48
    27 May 2008 at 9:37 pm

    Steve, MikeE’s a libertarian. He doesn’t believe the state has a role other than as military and police to enforce private contracts and protect private property. The state’s role is to throw the poor off your property, not to provide them with a future. Charming, huh?

  49. MikeE 49
    27 May 2008 at 9:50 pm

    Give me one good reason why we need a Ministry of Womens affairs?

    Or perhaps we need a Ministry of Mens affairs too?

    Or two ministries based soley around race?

    Here we have government departments whose whole reason for existance is to discriminate on the basis of risk or sex…

    I’m not saying they don’t do good things, I’m sure they do… I’m just questioning whether they need to exist as part of the state sector.

  50. Tane 50
    27 May 2008 at 10:01 pm

    The idea behind the Ministry of Women’s Affairs is to ensure that legislation takes the needs of women into account. It’s a very small and under-resourced operation with just a handful of staff.

    According to the Ministry’s website it costs $4 million a year to run. That works out to a tax cut of around 2.4 cents per week, but feel free to argue that’s worth cutting the interests of women out of the policy-making process.

  51. killinginthenameof 51
    27 May 2008 at 10:35 pm

    MikeE wrote:

    “You could always get rid of:

    Department of Building and Housing
    Department of Labour
    Ministry for the Environment
    New Zealand Food Safety Authority
    Serious Fraud Office
    Pharmaceutical Management Agency
    Environmental Risk Management Authority
    Accounting Standards Review Board
    Human Rights Commission
    Takeovers Panel
    Transport Accident Investigation Commission”

    Sounds like a torys wet dream!!

  52. AncientGeek 52
    27 May 2008 at 10:38 pm

    I’d like to see that as well, commenting about the worth of the Ministry of Woman’s Affairs.

    Perhaps someone should inform the woman bloggers. I’m sure that they’d like to comment. I noticed that they’re starting to talk about the bastions of blogging.

    Hell I’d use that as an excuse to get my mother and sister blogging. Be quite funny watching mike get done over.

    Besides isn’t there a Ministry of Men’s Affairs already (at least from what I’ve heard of their spending directions it should be renamed as that). Something about Sport. Personally I think it is a waste and should be killed pronto. Clearly an area for private enterprise.

  53. Dean 53
    27 May 2008 at 10:43 pm

    “According to the Ministry’s website it costs $4 million a year to run. That works out to a tax cut of around 2.4 cents per week, but feel free to argue that’s worth cutting the interests of women out of the policy-making process.”

    Tane, I see you’re using the same line as Steve has been.

    If you take this argument but instead add up all the spending instead of treating it in isoliation you may very well end up with a much more realistic figure. Maybe you go to the supermarket and don’t worry about adding up individual purchaes and tallying them against your spending budget for the week, but both you and Steve are very much mistaken if you think that’s how everybody else doesn’t behave.

    You didn’t answer his other question though, so I’ll repeat it for you. Why isn’t there a ministry for men’s affrars? Surely it would only cost us, in your own simplistic terms, a few slices of cheese a month or so?

  54. Dean 54
    27 May 2008 at 10:44 pm

    “Besides isn’t there a Ministry of Men’s Affairs already (at least from what I’ve heard of their spending directions it should be renamed as that). Something about Sport. Personally I think it is a waste and should be killed pronto. Clearly an area for private enterprise.”

    Clearly, all men are interested in sport.

    Get a clue, Ancient.

  55. AncientGeek 55
    27 May 2008 at 10:52 pm

    D: I’m not interested in sports these days. Used to play, but could never understand the fetish for watching.

    In particular I’d like to get rid of the 2011 world cup. The traffic is bad enough here without the pile of drunken sports nuts around.

    Sure as hell can’t see why I should pay taxes for it at both the local level and national. Isn’t that the argument that MikeE is running? He doesn’t see the point in it, so it should be discontinued? If it makes sense for the Ministry of Womens Affairs, then it really makes sense for the cost of sport to me.

    Of course there are people who are interested – but lets just ignore them shall we…

  56. Tane 56
    27 May 2008 at 10:58 pm

    Dean, as I said before, the idea behind the Ministry of Women’s Affairs is that we live in a society still blighted with sexism, both personal and institutional, and it’s important that we have a check on our legislation to ensure the interests of women are taken into account. I don’t personally see a need for a Ministry of Men’s Affairs as I’d say our interests are largely looked after by the status quo, but I’m not opposed to the idea in principle – if you can make an argument for one I’m happy to listen.

    As for your other question, the point we’re making is that if National and its supporters are going to talk about ‘trimming government waste’ as a viable way to pay for tax cuts then the onus is on them to come up with the costings. Your embassy in Sweden is 2 cents. The Ministry of Women’s Affairs (which National incidentally no longer wants to abolish) is 2.4 cents. I’m still not seeing any meaningful room for tax cuts here.

  57. gobsmacked 57
    27 May 2008 at 11:01 pm

    Just a reminder: John Key has pledged to keep the Ministry of Women’s Affairs.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/4436523a10.html

    I don’t mind people arguing that the government should abolish it. Just as long as they’re not claiming that it’s National Party policy to do so. They will continue the “waste”. No savings there, then.

    Still waiting for somebody to come up with examples of waste that National is committed to cut (as opposed to things that you personally want to cut). But then, does anybody argue in favour of National’s policies these days?

  58. Billy 58
    27 May 2008 at 11:01 pm

    “According to the Ministry’s website it costs $4 million a year to run.”

    Yeah, we could get two-thirds of a Buy Kiwi Made Campaign for that.

  59. Felix 59
    27 May 2008 at 11:03 pm

    Here we have government departments whose whole reason for existance is to discriminate on the basis of risk or sex

    I assume you meant race, not risk.

    If so, what’s wrong with departments to look out for the interests of specific sectors of society?

  60. AncientGeek 60
    27 May 2008 at 11:13 pm

    Tane: Fundementally, the Nats are going to have to hit some big ticket items. Even killing the money spent on sport isn’t really going to cut it.

    They should really look at the big ticket items and work down. Start with the biggest – superannuation, health and education. What is national party policy on those? Because if they don’t start there then they’re not going to get the billions they’ll need for “north of $50”

  61. Pascal's bookie 61
    28 May 2008 at 5:27 am

    They could can the four lane state highway one project, or a manned Mars mission or something, That’s squllions!!

  62. killinginthenameof 62
    28 May 2008 at 8:22 am

    Another 0.00039 cents per week from those housing NZ big wigs who thought a weekends trout fishing was in order!

  63. Robert Cowan 63
    2 July 2008 at 3:37 pm

    Almost any spending could be regarded as justifiable using the calculation of isolating it and dividing by population etc. Instead why not look at the actual monetary figure. Think what life saving operations could be preformed with $4million dollars. Think how many state houses it could buy. Consider how much infrastructure or healthcare it could fund in a developing nation.

    I am a social democrat and I dont believe in waste. One NZ dollar can mean the world to someone in Zimbamwe. And it all adds up. $20,000 needed for healthcare or schooling or housing is made from .00009 of a dollar of tax for each person per week, so yes it all makes a big difference.

    Furthermore, I have worked for a government department. There is waste. Yes, its difficult to identify it and eleminate it, and can ironically be costly in the short term, but it should never be justified by simply making it appear to look tedious by dividing it by the population and weeks in a year.

    Thanks for the debate.

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  • New catch limits for unique fishery areas
    Recreational catch limits will be reduced in areas of Fiordland and the Chatham Islands to help keep those fisheries healthy and sustainable, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones says. The lower recreational daily catch limits for a range of finfish and shellfish species caught in the Fiordland Marine Area and ...
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    12 hours ago

  • Minister welcomes hydrogen milestone
    Energy Minister Simeon Brown has welcomed an important milestone in New Zealand’s hydrogen future, with the opening of the country’s first network of hydrogen refuelling stations in Wiri. “I want to congratulate the team at Hiringa Energy and its partners K one W one (K1W1), Mitsui & Co New Zealand ...
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    1 day ago

  • Urgent changes to system through first RMA Amendment Bill
    The coalition Government is delivering on its commitment to improve resource management laws and give greater certainty to consent applicants, with a Bill to amend the Resource Management Act (RMA) expected to be introduced to Parliament next month. RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop has today outlined the first RMA Amendment ...
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  • Overseas decommissioning models considered
    Overseas models for regulating the oil and gas sector, including their decommissioning regimes, are being carefully scrutinised as a potential template for New Zealand’s own sector, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. The Coalition Government is focused on rebuilding investor confidence in New Zealand’s energy sector as it looks to strengthen ...
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  • Release of North Island Severe Weather Event Inquiry
    Emergency Management and Recovery Minister Mark Mitchell has today released the Report of the Government Inquiry into the response to the North Island Severe Weather Events. “The report shows that New Zealand’s emergency management system is not fit-for-purpose and there are some significant gaps we need to address,” Mr Mitchell ...
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  • Justice Minister to attend Human Rights Council
    Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith is today travelling to Europe where he’ll update the United Nations Human Rights Council on the Government’s work to restore law and order.  “Attending the Universal Periodic Review in Geneva provides us with an opportunity to present New Zealand’s human rights progress, priorities, and challenges, while ...
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  • Patterson reopens world’s largest wool scouring facility
    Associate Agriculture Minister, Mark Patterson, formally reopened the world’s largest wool processing facility today in Awatoto, Napier, following a $50 million rebuild and refurbishment project. “The reopening of this facility will significantly lift the economic opportunities available to New Zealand’s wool sector, which already accounts for 20 per cent of ...
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  • Speech to the Southland Otago Regional Engineering Collective Summit, 18 April 2024
    Hon Andrew Bayly, Minister for Small Business and Manufacturing  At the Southland Otago Regional Engineering Collective (SOREC) Summit, 18 April, Dunedin    Ngā mihi nui, Ko Andrew Bayly aho, Ko Whanganui aho    Good Afternoon and thank you for inviting me to open your summit today.    I am delighted ...
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  • Government to introduce revised Three Strikes law
    The Government is delivering on its commitment to bring back the Three Strikes legislation, Associate Justice Minister Nicole McKee announced today. “Our Government is committed to restoring law and order and enforcing appropriate consequences on criminals. We are making it clear that repeat serious violent or sexual offending is not ...
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  • New diplomatic appointments
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has today announced four new diplomatic appointments for New Zealand’s overseas missions.   “Our diplomats have a vital role in maintaining and protecting New Zealand’s interests around the world,” Mr Peters says.    “I am pleased to announce the appointment of these senior diplomats from the ...
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  • Humanitarian support for Ethiopia and Somalia
    New Zealand is contributing NZ$7 million to support communities affected by severe food insecurity and other urgent humanitarian needs in Ethiopia and Somalia, Foreign Minister Rt Hon Winston Peters announced today.   “Over 21 million people are in need of humanitarian assistance across Ethiopia, with a further 6.9 million people ...
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  • Arts Minister congratulates Mataaho Collective
    Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Paul Goldsmith is congratulating Mataaho Collective for winning the Golden Lion for best participant in the main exhibition at the Venice Biennale. "Congratulations to the Mataaho Collective for winning one of the world's most prestigious art prizes at the Venice Biennale.  “It is good ...
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    3 days ago

  • Supporting better financial outcomes for Kiwis
    The Government is reforming financial services to improve access to home loans and other lending, and strengthen customer protections, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly and Housing Minister Chris Bishop announced today. “Our coalition Government is committed to rebuilding the economy and making life simpler by cutting red tape. We are ...
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  • Trade relationship with China remains strong
    “China remains a strong commercial opportunity for Kiwi exporters as Chinese businesses and consumers continue to value our high-quality safe produce,” Trade and Agriculture Minister Todd McClay says.   Mr McClay has returned to New Zealand following visits to Beijing, Harbin and Shanghai where he met ministers, governors and mayors and engaged in trade and agricultural events with the New ...
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    4 days ago

  • PM’s South East Asia mission does the business
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has completed a successful trip to Singapore, Thailand and the Philippines, deepening relationships and capitalising on opportunities. Mr Luxon was accompanied by a business delegation and says the choice of countries represents the priority the New Zealand Government places on South East Asia, and our relationships in ...
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  • $41m to support clean energy in South East Asia
    New Zealand is demonstrating its commitment to reducing global greenhouse emissions, and supporting clean energy transition in South East Asia, through a contribution of NZ$41 million (US$25 million) in climate finance to the Asian Development Bank (ADB)-led Energy Transition Mechanism (ETM). Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Climate Change Minister Simon Watts announced ...
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    5 days ago

  • Minister releases Fast-track stakeholder list
    The Government is today releasing a list of organisations who received letters about the Fast-track applications process, says RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop. “Recently Ministers and agencies have received a series of OIA requests for a list of organisations to whom I wrote with information on applying to have a ...
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  • Judicial appointments announced
    Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister David Jonathan Boldt as a Judge of the High Court, and the Honourable Justice Matthew Palmer as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Boldt graduated with an LLB from Victoria University of Wellington in 1990, and also holds ...
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  • Education Minister heads to major teaching summit in Singapore
    Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa.  The summit is co-hosted ...
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  • Value of stopbank project proven during cyclone
    A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
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  • Anzac commemorations, Türkiye relationship focus of visit
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul.    “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
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  • Minister to Europe for OECD meeting, Anzac Day
    Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
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  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
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    6 days ago

  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
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  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
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  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
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  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
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    6 days ago

  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
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    6 days ago

  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
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    6 days ago

  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
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    7 days ago

  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
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    1 week ago

  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
    RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
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  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
    Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
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    1 week ago

  • School attendance restored as a priority in health advice
    Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
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  • Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sector
    Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
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    1 week ago

  • Patterson promoting NZ’s wool sector at International Congress
    Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector.    "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...
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  • Removing red tape to help early learners thrive
    The Government is making legislative changes to make it easier for new early learning services to be established, and for existing services to operate, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. The changes involve repealing the network approval provisions that apply when someone wants to establish a new early learning service, ...
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    1 week ago

  • RMA changes to cut coal mining consent red tape
    Changes to the Resource Management Act will align consenting for coal mining to other forms of mining to reduce barriers that are holding back economic development, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The inconsistent treatment of coal mining compared with other extractive activities is burdensome red tape that fails to acknowledge ...
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    1 week ago

  • McClay reaffirms strong NZ-China trade relationship
    Trade, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Todd McClay has concluded productive discussions with ministerial counterparts in Beijing today, in support of the New Zealand-China trade and economic relationship. “My meeting with Commerce Minister Wang Wentao reaffirmed the complementary nature of the bilateral trade relationship, with our Free Trade Agreement at its ...
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